Shut up, they say

Let's get the most important point out of the way first--the very concept of "hate speech" is more dangerous than any of the speech that might be classified as such.

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REV2018 says...

Brad Glitz, as usual, blaming "liberals".
Brad has blamed liberals for everything from the biblical Flood to trumps blind stupidity.

Are Brads columns becoming fake news???

Brads car was making a "funny" noise the other day - liberals.
Brads living room carpet is mussed - liberals.
Brads dog has fleas - liberals.
Brads column was printed slightly crooked(leaning just a smidge to the left) - liberals.
Brad spotted what appeared to be a UFO over Batesville the other day. Aliens? Nope, liberals.
Brad couldn't find a damn parking space at Walmart. You guessed it. Liberals.
Brad's computer crashed whilst he was blaming liberals. Huh-uh. Libs.
Indigestion? Liberals. Pimples? Libruls. Flat tire? Snowflakes. Solar flares? Libbys.
Keep up the good work Brad.
Brad Glitz - Empowering Liberals Daily.

Posted 17 July 2017, 3:02 p.m. Suggest removal

DoubleBlind says...

'Libruls'...hilarious; love it, Rev..thank you. Gitz: 'Git off my lawn, you dam libruls!'

Posted 17 July 2017, 11:56 p.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

"It is not difficult to see where all this leads, and why American colleges are becoming perhaps the most totalitarian places on earth outside of Pyongyang."
Pyongyang? With its torture of political prisoners? Not to mention other places of totalitarian political torture?
Evidently, Gitz loves to wildly exaggerate or he really, really hates American colleges. Or both.

Posted 18 July 2017, 7:46 a.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

Quote correction: "... American college campuses are becoming ..."

Posted 18 July 2017, 7:52 a.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

Maybe it's just the campuses which Gitz finds so awfully detestable, and maybe the ivory tower is still a mighty fine place.

Posted 18 July 2017, 7:59 a.m. Suggest removal

skeptic1 says...

Colleges clearly have stopped teaching what fascism truly is. A fascist shuts down opposing thought and speech, take a look at the Brown Shirts of the German National Socialist Party as an example and corollary to the hooded thugs raging on our college campuses today..it's chilling.

Posted 18 July 2017, 8:37 a.m. Suggest removal

Delta123 says...

Dr. Gitz is spot on. And so far I don't read any actual cogent rebuttals to what the man wrote.

Posted 18 July 2017, 8:45 a.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

Delta, we'll have to agree to disagree. You believe Gitz is spot-on in his claim that college campuses are becoming more totalitarian than any places other than Pyongyang. I believe that's wildly inaccurate. I believe places controlled by ISIS and other terrorist organizations are a whole lot more totalitarian than any college campus. I believe authoritarian countries like Russia and China and Saudi Arabia and many others are more totalitarian and more controlling of speech through intimidation and harsh punishments than any college campus.

Posted 19 July 2017, 10:26 a.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

I believe it's a classic slippery-slope argument that American college campuses are sliding downhill toward the pits of Pyongyang at the bottom. I believe slippery-slope arguments are wrong because societies--especially free societies--find ways to avoid sliding into the hellish conditions typically portrayed in slippery-slope narratives . . . like Pyongyang, for crying out loud. I believe that the logical moderate choices available to societies to avoid sliding down the slippery slope are the reasons that slippery-slope arguments have been recognized as slippery-slope fallacies for many centuries.

Posted 19 July 2017, 10:48 a.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

On the other hand, it is undesirable and even dangerous for a society to prohibit hate speech. Gitz is correct about that. The ACLU has operated in large part on that principle since it originated in 1920. The Supreme Court has also largely agreed with that principle, at least in the post-war era of the last 70 years. It's important for hate speech and other forms of speech deemed undesirable to be freely debated in society and not pushed underground by prohibition to fester out of the national spotlight.
The problem is Gitz's tendency to grossly exaggerate and to blame liberals for anything and everything he doesn't like, a tendency which was amusingly illustrated by REV2018. The ACLU--which is generally considered a liberal organization--has an article "Speech on campus" on its website, explaining why hate speech is and should be allowed with certain narrow limitations. Its article "Freedom of Expression: ACLU Position Paper" more broadly discusses its support for First Amendment rights and related Supreme Court decisions. NPR--also considered a liberal organization--has an article "The ACLU Explains Why They're Supporting the Rights of Milo Yiannopoulos" on its website.
I don't doubt that there are some extreme leftists on college campuses and that Gitz and many others would find them objectionable. I would too if they're advocating extreme methods like censorship in prohibiting certain forms of speech they don't like. But that doesn't mean Gitz and other right-wing opinion columnists should go unchallenged in their tendency to see each and every one of America's societal problems as a wonderful opportunity to cast all the blame on liberals.

Posted 19 July 2017, 12:01 p.m. Suggest removal

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