Login

ADVERTISEMENT

JOHN BRUMMETT: Elizabeth endures

photo.caption|escapejs

Photographs by Democrat Gazette file photo/WILL COUNTS

Hazel Bryan shouts insults at Elizabeth Eckford as she walks past a line of National Guardsman.

Elizabeth Eckford spoke softly, tersely, and with understated power.

Even as a child, she'd needed no words to speak profoundly. She'd needed only to endure.

All she was trying to do the morning of Sept. 5, 1957--her head down, her notebook at her chest, her manner shy and her dignity soaring--was go to school.

She had a new homemade dress. She was excited, but tense. Her father, who worked nights and normally slept late, was up, pacing. The family gathered for a prayer before she headed out alone, all of 15, to catch the city bus.

Due to an oversight occurring because her family had no phone, she hadn't received word that, because of demagogic state politics and the rumored gathering of brutal white hate, the youths known as the Little Rock Nine would arrive together with adult accompaniment for the first day of school.

The idea had been for these carefully chosen standout children to make history by daring to carry their dark complexions into Little Rock Central High School to desegregate that raging Southern Caucasian fortress.

But the eight were turned back.

I use "desegregate," not "integrate," because Eckford uses "desegregate," and she gets to decide, and she is right.

That wasn't racial integration, she told an admiring audience during a panel discussion Thursday night with Janis Kearney and Annie Abrams at UA-Pulaski Tech. It was, she said, a minimalist acquiescence to the law.

It was the least Little Rock could do.

That morning in 1957, Eckford walked two blocks from a bus stop to the massive, imposing school. She saw a crowd and thought that odd. She heard murmuring as she came closer. She was relieved to see National Guardsmen, then confused when the soldiers raised their weapons to deny her passage to the school grounds.

The photograph that went around the world, and horrified anyone of human decency, showed white primitives coming up behind to stalk and hurl slurs at this solitary girl.

It happened as she ventured away from the place of learning that had rejected her and toward a bus bench that she thought might provide solace. It showed a white girl shouting at her angrily.

If I were to write a caption, I'd choose "black supremacy."

Prejudice, she told this night's audience at Pulaski Tech, is about people trying to make you believe you are less than they are. You find yourself indeed feeling lesser, she said, when you are shunned day after day--until sixth period and speech class when two white kids unfailingly talked with her.

They couldn't have known how much that meant to her, she said. She told them 30 years later. She never mentioned their names publicly because she feared their families might sustain community reprisal.

For decades, Eckford spoke not a public word about the experience. She said it was because of the pain.

She began talking to schoolkids in 1999, and, for a while, cried every time.

"But now I don't cry," she said, winning applause, presumably for overcoming. But she had always overcome. She had always been more, not less--when she cried, when she was silent, when she put one tender foot in front of the other.

At 76, Eckford sat in front of Thursday's audience still and stately, but somehow ill at ease. She spoke with low-volume articulation. She tended to deliver two or three well-designed and on-point sentences. Then she stopped talking. You waited a couple of seconds for her to continue. But she didn't. And the moderator moved on.

With elegant forbearance, Eckford eschewed racial resentment, racial politics or even a racial framing of this great ordeal of her life and our time.

We all come from Africa and we all contain pieces of each other, she said. Race, she said, is an arbitrary social construction of our detrimental choosing that is all about a power-setting order.

Kearney, the moderator, asked Eckford the ultimate question: Sixty years after, was what she endured worth it?

Whites have been running out of public schools ever since Eckford bravely walked toward one.

Eckford did not answer. The question had two parts, and she replied to the other, then stopped.

This question that loomed for the evening looms over us every day. For the seminal investment of Elizabeth's pain and our shame, what is today's dividend?

I thought about asking her again after the program. But the people selling her book said she would not appear for a signing.

Then I saw her. She was trying to leave, but elevators must be waited for. Admirers--young black female students, mainly--were gathered around her, seeking and taking photos.

I thought that Eckford, while patiently obliging, seemed uncomfortable standing in the middle of pressing people.

The moment was right for a Little Rock white man, at long last, to leave Elizabeth Eckford alone.

It's not on her if we've wasted her pain.

------------v------------

John Brummett, whose column appears regularly in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, is a member of the Arkansas Writers' Hall of Fame. Email him at jbrummett@arkansasonline.com. Read his @johnbrummett Twitter feed.

Editorial on 02/13/2018

Comments

WGT says...

Heavy.

Posted 13 February 2018, 6:52 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

An American hero transcends American hatred and ignorance.

Posted 13 February 2018, 7:27 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

These were the voices from 60 years ago, but these are still the voices in Charlottesville or Harrison or even in these boards. When people degrade a class of people because of their race, either directly or indirectly, those voices carry forward to today.
...
"If Democrats want a high crime rate and more Democratic voters you got to get rid of whites and replace them with Blacks."
...
Thank you for sharing the moments from that night, John. We need more diversity of thought like this to help remind us that while we've come a long ways, we still have a long ways to go.

Posted 13 February 2018, 7:43 a.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Let's recall that the democrat governor called out the National Guard to stop desegregation, and the Republican president sent federal troops to protect the black students.

Posted 13 February 2018, 7:48 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

mozarky, democrats then in the south are today's republicans. They started switching parties en mass with the civil rights movement of the 60's and finished the switch when the U.S. elected a black man as POTUS. Faubus would be your GOP god if he were alive in office today. Study history, and don't make this about politics. This was about a young black girl standing up to a bunch of racists, many of whom still live in this state and espouse their views on this web site.

Posted 13 February 2018, 7:58 a.m. Suggest removal

rh1378 says...

hah406......Very good points.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:26 a.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

You're either lying or misinformed, hah.
Today's democrat party is even more pernicious in their treatment of blacks. The democrats purposely keep them as poor and stupid as possible, solely for their votes. A growing number of blacks are figuring this out, and before long they'll stop being such a reliable bloc for the dems. And when that happens, the dem party dies. Probably around November.
No, hah, the democrats of 1957 stayed democrats.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:33 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Moz I know you’re issue illiterate, but you really proved your ignorance today. Dixiecrats, the racist Democrats of the 50s and 60s, were pushed out of the Democratic Party and moved to the Republican Party. Storm Thurmond was a great example. You are a part of that ignorant bunch who continues to hold this country back from true greatness.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:38 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

I read moz’s comment and I really have to ask if people are REALLY that issue illiterate. To even suggest that with a straight face shows moz has not studied the path of the Dixiecrats and how they migrated to the Republican Party. I would hope he would be as ashamed of them, but he probably would have been one of them, embracing their racist ideology. If not, then he should be leading the movement to eradicate them from the Republican Party where they fled to.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:50 a.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

RBlowhard, you lie again.
The dimocrat party has done everything in their power to keep black people down, solely for their votes. Black people are beginning to figure it out, though.
The dims have already manifested their hatred of the working class loud and clear, and that fact gave us President Trump. Now, blacks are figuring out that the dims hate them, too.
That "Blue Wave" you people are predicting in November will be a Red Tsunami.
Buh-bye, dimocrat party!

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:53 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

We are way too generous when we describe as simply ignorant those individuals who are virulently racist and who seek to reinterpret history in order to spread their own hatred.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:56 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Regardless of party, these racists were mostly too young to have been there to curse and to spit at these courageous students when they took their stand decades ago, so today they settle for doing so symbolically in safe and easy places like this comments section.

Posted 13 February 2018, 9:03 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

DRAMA QUEEN!

Posted 13 February 2018, 10:08 a.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

You're projecting again, RBlowhard...thanks for the laughs, though!

Posted 13 February 2018, 10:18 a.m. Suggest removal

ARMNAR says...

Google "Southern Strategy."

Posted 13 February 2018, 10:19 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

mo, just read some actual history texts and scholarly articles on things like the civil rights movement and politics, Nixon's southern strategy, etc. Most southern democrats turned to the republican party, as the northern democrats were pushing civil and voting rights for blacks. You are the one misinformed (as I would not stoop to calling you a liar), and all your posting on this comes from the revisionist history of the Fox Opinion Channel.

Posted 13 February 2018, 10:44 a.m. Suggest removal

mrcharles says...

A rose by any other name smells just as sweet.

Conversely , well you know it.

By the way genmac, were you a teenager in 1957.?

Posted 13 February 2018, 10:55 a.m. Suggest removal

PopulistMom says...

One of JB’s best columns.

Posted 13 February 2018, 11:32 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

When I start seeing the same percentage of pictures of violent thugs in this paper as the percentage of the white population in Little Rock I'll quit associating race with violent crime.

When I start reading of white Little Rock neighborhoods with shootings and white residents refusing to co-operating with police I may change my mind.

When I start reading about Black "eye witnesses" who can give testimony in cops shooting Blacks that agrees with forensic evidence,I might change my mind.

When Black athletes and Black politicians chant " hands up. don't shoot" and know it was based on a lie, it solidifies my belief that many Blacks, including Barack HUSSEIN Obama , are some of the most racist people on earth !

Posted 13 February 2018, 11:49 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

And the resident racist has spoken. More a part of the problem than the solution. They always are.

Posted 13 February 2018, 12:07 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

As far as I'm concerned, GenMac and mozarky2 are either Russian trolls or functionally indistinguishable from them - a distinction without a difference - so I treat them accordingly. They are either actual tools of the Kremlin or the useful idiots to which their ilk often derisively allude.

Posted 13 February 2018, 12:26 p.m. Suggest removal

Rightwhanger says...

Very moving. If only the people who need to read it would. The issue now is not as much race as broader demographics. The cold fact is that most of us care only about our kids and ourselves. Not having to go to school with poor people, unless they are good athletes or very smart, is what most tax payers want. Quality education for everyone is just tax and spend liberal pie in the sky, for most Arkansans.

Posted 13 February 2018, 12:33 p.m. Suggest removal

Rightside says...

Elizabeth Eckford has been awarded numerous accolades for her courage and heroism, including the NAACP’s Spingarn Medal and the U.S.’s Congressional Gold Medal, which is the country’s highest civilian award. A Strong and Courageous Lady.

"It wasn’t until 1964 that African-American support for the GOP fell off the cliff. Barry Goldwater’s vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which, ironically, was supported by larger proportions of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress drove black voter supporter for the GOP standard-bearer down below ten percent. In the years since, it has rarely climbed much above that mark and has never come close to the level Richard Nixon received in 1960."
"When Richard Nixon took office in 1969, 68 percent of black Southern students attended segregated schools. Within five years, that number had been cut to 9 percent. As Tom Wicker wrote in his biography, One of Us, The Nixon administration did more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the sixteen previous years, or probably since.”
"The lock the Democrats had on Southern Senate and House seats also began to erode during the Nixon years.
The reasons for this change are many. Chief among them is Richard Nixon success in occupying the middle ground in American politics and thus attracting the support of Silent Majority, not just in the South, but also in every part of America."

Posted 13 February 2018, 12:38 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

RBear says..............." more a part of the problem than the solution "

I believe you have described Barack HUSSEIN Obama, the great race baiter who tried to divide our country along racial lines .
Take two presidents...........one white, one Black

White......George W Bush..2 daughters, no sons
Black.......Barack HUSSEIN Obama..2 daughters, no sons

George W Bush never stuck his nose into ongoing criminal investigations involving a white thug and a Black man by saying..........." if I had a son, he would look like "...the white thug.

White voters don't want a president defending a white thug solely on color of skin.

Posted 13 February 2018, 12:45 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

Rightwhanger and Rightside, you are both wrong. Whanger, your statement is for you alone. Still the majority in Arkansas and the USA support public schools for everyone. It makes no difference their financial, physical, or mental capabilities. Rightside, your error is in the fact that LBJ signed the voter rights act, and equal rights amendment. At that time he stated that the Democrats had lost the South. After that all the old Dixiecrats left the party and became Republicans, and they are still Republicans today! I was a Republican, born and raised in the south, but my family had no slaves and didn't believe in owning people. When the Dixiecrats moved into my political party I moved out as they brought with them the same hate as they had before, and as far as I can see they still have it.

Posted 13 February 2018, 12:55 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

Eight years of a Black president and how much better off are Blacks ?

33% more people on welfare food stamps after 8 years vs before.

I imagine some of those EXTRA 33% were Blacks, but is being added to a welfare Food Stamp list that major of an accomplishment ?

Posted 13 February 2018, 1:18 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Such a travesty when the gbltquiawtf movement equates the struggles of an Elizabeth Eckford with those of a 50 year old man dressed like a woman who desires to urinate in a stall next to a 10 year old little girl.

Posted 13 February 2018, 1:39 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

The struggles of those oppressed by white males seem to be the same. Those in the 50s and 60s painted images of fear to oppress others. They seem to do it today as well, even when evidence cannot be produced.

Posted 13 February 2018, 1:58 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Gotta hand it to you, for once, Brummett. A very moving tribute to a very brave young Elizabeth Eckford.
Now, as to diversity for diversity's sake, I think I prefer competence for competence's sake.
Kinda curious, too, the seemingly total lack of diversity among the "progs" who post here. They're all white, gay males, except of course PopMom.

Posted 13 February 2018, 2:07 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Good day Packman, and Happy Fat Tuesday! Much agreed. That struggle for racial equality was unmatched, and does not compare to the silly squabbles people want to have over who pees where. We already have laws against sexual assault and voyeurism, and I have always suspected that if some truly transgendered person were walking right next to me, I wouldn't know that they were anything except the sex that they externally appeared to be. Non-issue, and certainly nothing compared to Ms. Eckford and the others.

Posted 13 February 2018, 2:40 p.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

Have people forgotten that a DEMOCRAT governor (Faubus) tried to block desegregation and a REPUBLICAN president (Eisenhower) enforced it? Apparently so.

Posted 13 February 2018, 3:14 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Gohogs you are SO LATE to this discussion. Please try to keep up. I know you don’t seem to get here until the afternoon, but we’ve moved on from that STUPID false argument.

Posted 13 February 2018, 3:22 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

mozzy the draft dodger, you are wrong again. It appears that you being afraid of life has warped your mind. Had you ever been half as brave as this lady, you might have amounted to something.

Posted 13 February 2018, 3:31 p.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

Rbear, I'm really sorry, honest I am. I just haven't had the time to troll today as you have, spending ALL your time posting on every thread the way you do. I wonder if you have a "real" job? If so, does your boss know you're spending his time doing this all day long? You are a sorry, pathetic individual. Tell us, do you have any friends outside the "community"? I doubt it, with your blatant arrogance.

Posted 13 February 2018, 3:32 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Gohogs actually I get a TON done. This occupies about a tiny fraction of my day. It doesn’t take much to stay aware of things. Amazed you can’t do that.

Posted 13 February 2018, 3:50 p.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

You didn't say you had a REAL job. I'm guessing you don't. If these posts only occupy a "tiny fraction" of your day, you must, unlike everyone else, have more than 24 hours in a day. Your "awareness" isn't too impressive, however, though you want everyone to believe that. You must lead a life filled with "fertile imagination".

Posted 13 February 2018, 4 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

ROTFL @ you piggie. Sorry you’re lousy at multitasking. Now, try to keep up with the discussion.

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:15 p.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

Rbear, the ONLY "multitasking" you do are on the multi-threads on this site. Who are you kidding? You arrogant jerk!

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:22 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Hey, LimberLiar, how's it going? Always good to hear from your lies.
gohog, in fairness to RB, I did mention the fact of the party affiliations earlier on this thread.
Now, as to the "progs" memories, forgetfulness is a defense mechanism. So is lying, as amply demonstrated by the hard-core unemployable LimberLiar. Some of those morons actually try to pass themselves off as intelligent, like the poseur RB. Defense mechanisms, nothing more. Totally harmless, and providing tons of entertaining to normals like us.
Allow me to explain: their dreams have been crushed since the defeat of their goddess, Princess Pantsuit, the Fainting Felon, the Coughing Con. They wallow constantly in their own individual Pits of Misery, horribly distraught, primally screaming, sobbing uncontrollably. Add to those facts, they're almost all gay, a condition given to depression and high rates of suicide.
I know for a fact that most of them actually have a man-crush on President Trump. Remember the scene in Blazing Saddles where one of the dancers beats on the chest of one of the cowboys, then starts hugging him? That's RB if he ever stood face-to-face with President Trump.
So, gohog, ignore their ignorance, their insults, their insanity, and their lies. Just enjoy the show; the best slow-motion train wreck you'll ever see.

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:27 p.m. Suggest removal

mrcharles says...

General mac, have a solution, quit thinking, it is harmful to you and really sucks to read such drivel. Build a time machine and go back to slave days, or perhaps the 1940, or 50's and jump up and down and shout with the citizen counsels and white knights of the night. Your racism is sickening , but you make moz 2 sound like a Stalinist. And by the way, you may go now.

hogslop, see above.

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:29 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

DRAMA QUEEN!!!

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:30 p.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

Mrchuck, what caused your mental illness? If it was an accident I might understand your nonsense more. But I suspect you're just naturally that way so I have no regrets about saying to you what I do.

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:38 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Between the two of us, RB, I don't think I'm the "queen"...thanks for the laughs, though...toodles, for now!

Posted 13 February 2018, 4:41 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Now, gohog, where were we? (Babysitting my slightly ill grand-daughter today, and she's keeping me busy. Be on the lookout for death wishes for her from those ever-so-tolerant "progs")!
Oh, yes! We were discussing the "progs" and their misery! Adding to their grief, the Mueller witch hunt is going nowhere. His only "trophy" so far is General Michael Flynn, whose guilty plea now appears to be getting thrown out.
It also appears that a Grand Jury will be impaneled to look into the FBI and perhaps all the way to the top of the (Dare I say it? DARE! DARE! another Blazing Saddles reference, hehehe) Obama administration! The "progs" here will never see it coming, due to the fact that they live in a hermetically sealed echo chamber that filters out all non-approved thought.
So hilarious that those morons STILL haven't figured out that President Trump is always several steps ahead of them!
Checking on grand-daughter, back with more in a bit. You'd love my g-d, gohog, probably as much as the "progs" hate her type. She attends the toughest elementary school (a charter, naturally) in the state, is an all-A honor roll student, takes ballet, chess, voice, and piano. She's also a very devout Christian, intensifying the hatred of the "progs" even more.
Back soon, when we'll discuss the upcoming death of the dimocrat party come November.

Posted 13 February 2018, 5:04 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Oh, one more thing, gohog, re mrschurlish!
Are you ready for yet another Blazing Saddles reference? Remember Gabby Johnson?
Hint: "The new sheriff is a CLANG"! mrschurlish to a T!

Posted 13 February 2018, 5:09 p.m. Suggest removal

Wowy says...

Trump is everything, he is a political messiah. Trump is a savvey NY businessman and a heartfelt Christian at the same time. Trump has been annointed by Christ at the nod from the Almighty.... The Orange God among us will rule. The Orange God among us will set things straight. The Golden Eagle has landed, and he will revel in his time. I pray the Infinate Almighty keeps Him alive forever .... Because when he is gone the world will become dark again..

Posted 13 February 2018, 5:23 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

As promised, I'm back!
Now to November:
In the months leading up to the election, the GOP will be carpet bombing the airwaves with ads featuring the no energy dims at SOTU. All of the issues that Trump brought up, that ALL normals should have went to their feet for, will be stressed, and juxtaposed with the dims, appearing to be on the verge of throwing up, sitting on their fat Schumers.
I saw the funniest meme today featuring Nanzi Pelosi, standing on the House floor, captioned "She stood for eight hours for illegal aliens". Then, rolling something around in her mouth, seated at SOTU, captioned "She couldn't stand up one second for real Americans"!
gohog, these "progs" have NO idea what's coming their way in November. I'd advise you to buy stock in Orville Redenbacher.
Checking on grand-daughter again. At the moment, she's kicking some nutbucket leftist's azz in an online game of chess.
Back in a bit with my insightful commentary on the current state of the economy; and, as always, my rapier-sharp wit.

Posted 13 February 2018, 5:37 p.m. Suggest removal

ARMNAR says...

Given his recent post in support of abusive men, I'd wager moz's is more of a "rapier-wife" wit.

Posted 13 February 2018, 7:14 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

When did I support abusive men, AR?

Posted 13 February 2018, 7:48 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

It's you dims who protect abusers and punish their victims. Remember Bill Clinton's brutal rape of Juanita Broaddrick?
Remember why Bill Clinton was kicked out of Oxford University?
Remember Hillary's intimidation of Bill's victims?
Don't complain to me about sexual abuse, you hypocritical POS!
Oh, and isn't Sarah Sanders a whore, according to you? Haven't you claimed someone's mother was burning in Hell?
And you question me?

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:03 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

I'm back! Now, to this booming economy, courtesy of President Trump!
More reasons "progs" are suicidal:
Federal budget shows a $50 BILLION surplus for January, the first month of the monumental Trump tax cuts!
Small businesses are expanding, hiring, and raising wages!
Home prices hit new record highs!
Now, for a benefit of this Trump economy:
Polling shows that only six states have a net negative approval rating of President Trump. As expected, they are the schiffholes of CA, HI, MA, MD, RI, and VT. That means 44 states have President Trump polling in net positive margins.
Back in a bit with some stuff that "progs" will never see coming...

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:18 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

piggie to your point about me. Yea, I'm unemployed, sitting around in coffee shops all day, drawing that unemployment check. Why should I get a job when your tax dollars helped me get to this point? I guess I'm too picky and why shouldn't I be. Trump is going to make sure I have a job soon enough.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:20 p.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

Rbear, I'm sorry to hear you're unemployed. That's not a fun experience as I have been there before. I hope you can find work soon and I'm not kidding about it. I really do.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:45 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

I'll be 70 in a little over two months, and I've never been unemployed.
gohog, I'm not as concerned about him being unemployed as I am about him being ignorant, arrogant, and a schiffhole.

Posted 13 February 2018, 8:50 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Adam Rippon bi***es for weeks about Vice-President Pence, who never once mentioned Rippon.
Um, Adam, had you concentrated on your training, perhaps you could have led your team to gold. Instead, you focused your unsubstantiated hatred on Pence.
Honestly, can you provide me with one quote where Pence utters an anti-gay slur?
Instead, you chose to make this Olympics all about you, in a TEAM competition, no less!
EPIC fail!!!
You had your chance at gold, but you chose bronze...congratulations!
(Hey, RB-here's your drama queen)!

Posted 13 February 2018, 11:12 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

gohogs so don't take this the wrong way. I was having fun with you on your last comment about my posting during the day. I really do appreciate your concern. I'm fine and fully employed. No way I could let that go with the feeling of concern from you. Putting all our back and forth aside, you're a good person and that last bit helped solidify my opinion.
...
Quite honestly, I'm doing quite well in my career, having shifted from enterprise architecture to information security. The reason you see me post during the day is because I check the boards walking to meetings or in down times. You HAVE to take mental breaks occasionally in this line of business and I'll do that sometimes, just to give the brain a break. That's when you see me post or at lunch.
...
Thanks for the concern and hopefully no hard feelings on the misleading comment. Hope your'e doing well also.

Posted 14 February 2018, 4:50 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

moz how pathetic you are to even comment on sports. Sooooo ... a little on this story which apparently you know NOTHING about. Rippon was asked about Pence by reporters and responded that he wouldn't meet with Pence while on the trip, partly because of Pence's past history regarding conversion therapy, but more importantly because he was concentrating on his performance with Team USA.
...
Rippon posted a flawless performance that had no mistakes during it, but wasn't as technically challenging at the end as some of the other competitors. In figure skating, jumps executed towards the end of the performance score higher than at the beginning. Other team members had mistakes in their performance that dragged the scores down, namely Nathan Chen who had mistakes in his performance at the start. A bronze was a great showing by Team USA which wasn't really expected to medal.
...
The fact you would attack Rippon in that way shows how freaking ignorant you are of the sport. Sorry, but you showed how much of an ignorant troll you are just then. Regarding Olympians and the White House, you are probably going to find several who are going to ditch the trip this year because of the current inhabitant.

Posted 14 February 2018, 4:58 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

moz let's just show how STUPID your comment was on Rippon's performance. Looking at the cumulative results of the Team event, Rippon scored the second highest score of any of the US scores, scoring an 8 in the singles skating. Not that you should be attacking any one of the athletes, but we scored a 6 in ladies and a couple of 7s in pair skating. So, as you can see it wasn't Rippon that dragged the team down. Regardless, with Canada scoring 3 10s and the OAR scoring 3 10s there was no way the US could have gotten any higher.
...
As I stated, Rippon chose to NOT make it about Pence during the competition and focus on the competition. Pence wanted to meet with him in PyeongChang, trying to score a photo op, disregarding the athlete's need to concentrate. If anyone was trying to create the distraction, it was Pence.

Posted 14 February 2018, 7:58 a.m. Suggest removal

gohog2018 says...

Rbear, thanks for the posts. I am doing well and I'm glad you are as well. No offense taken by the "misleading comment", just glad to know it was facetious. You know, each of has said a lot of disparaging remarks at times to one another. I know that's no excuse but at times, for lack of a better term, I've let my frustration vent in the wrong ways. Really, my subscription ends soon but I wish you success in all your ventures and whatever path you've chosen.

Posted 14 February 2018, 8:45 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Gohogs thanks a bunch. That means a lot. A little more back story. I left an amazing job in San Antonio to come back to Arkansas to help take care of my parents. In SAT, I was blessed with the opportunity to score patents in financial technology and was on the team that invented something everyone uses today to deposit checks with their phone.
...
But that all means nothing for the opportunity to spend time with parents in their final years. Arkansas is my native home and glad to be back.
...
Yep, we may spar passionately but I will miss you when it does expire. Have a great one.

Posted 14 February 2018, 9 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey RBear - A point of clarification about Rippon's disrespect/hatred for VP Pence. Pence never made the statements about conversion therapy as Rippon alleged. Those allegations have been thoroughly and conclusively debunked. Rippon, on several occasions, made additional disrespectful and derogatory statements about Pence to reporters. He also outed himself as a petulant little twit by refusing to meet with Pence. You are to be commended for playing nice with gohogs. Rippon should be condemned for not playing nice with Pence.
.
As to why Rippon finished third it's because two other people finished ahead of him. Kind of how Trump finished ahead of Hillary. You seem to understand how scoring various aspects of competitive events works to determine the winner, except for presidential elections. Would you mind explaining it to John Brummett? He still thinks Trump finished 2nd.

Posted 14 February 2018, 9:53 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Pack trying to comment on something you don’t know about. TEAM competition.

Posted 14 February 2018, 10:08 a.m. Suggest removal

Johnbrummett says...

He did. By nearly 3 million votes.

Posted 14 February 2018, 10:39 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Gosh, JB, didn't realize the Patriots won the Super Bowl since Brady passed for 505 yards and Foles only 373. That is the statistic that determines which team won, right? Moron.
.
Hey RBear - My bad. It wasn't individual completion. Rippon's team finished third because two other teams scored higher than his team based on the way the competition is scored. Again, you seem to understand how that works. Do us all a favor and try to explain that to John Brummett.

Posted 14 February 2018, 3:08 p.m. Suggest removal

Log in to comment