JOHN BRUMMETT: The sum of the man-child

Today I relate an extended anecdote taken from accounts by the New York Times and Jonathan Karl of ABC.

I thereby will demonstrate the sum of the style and soul of Donald Trump.

If you want to understand the preposterous Russian-endorsed second-place American president, it's all right there.


Amid reports that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was ready to talk to the American president, the White House summoned to the Oval Office an envoy from South Korea, Chung Eui-yong. South Korea had initially relayed the North Korean's unprecedented supposed willingness.

Chung began the meeting in the way foreign leaders have learned to begin meetings with Trump. The South Korean flattered the blustery American, telling him the world would not confront such a remarkable moment if not for the president's leadership, for which South Korea was most grateful.

The South Korean envoy said his country had concluded that Kim Jong Un was sincere about a substantive dialogue and that the proposition of a meeting was worth pursuing.

Trump said, "Let's do it."

Presidential aides were taken aback. They thought they were getting information, not deciding.

The generals--Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster--interjected that there were risks and downsides to proceeding apace. (It could elevate North Korea's world standing and reduce America's; it could buy time and provide cover for further missile development by North Korea; American eagerness could damage the nation's position.)

Trump said, yeah, yeah, yeah, he understood all that. Then he repeated: Let's do it.

Hours later, as Karl of ABC told it, the president encountered the network reporter in a White House corridor and said, "I hope you give me credit."

On an epic nuclear question laden with global worry, this president's context was not the delicacy of the challenge or the nuance of adversarial maneuvering. It was as simple as that a television reporter give him credit.

The ego and the precipitous declaration of action--those are, with Trump, inseparable. They are one.

It goes like this: Trump tweets indiscreet warnings to and about North Korea, crowing about the size of his nuclear button as if he were responsible for it, and as if to threaten manly action. Then, at the first inkling of a possible North Korean concession, while his reasonable and informed advisers are seeking information for analysis, the ever-impatient Trump sees an opportunity to serve his ego by claiming credit for the tactical success of that recklessness and braggadocio.

A man-child wants credit and wants it now.

Trump quickly seeks that credit from a reporter. Then he goes to a campaign rally in Pennsylvania and extemporizes that being "presidential"--more patient, more thoughtful, more reserved--would be "so boring."

He was talking to his base, the fortuitous geographic distribution of which--in places like Pennsylvania--delivered his second-place victory.

The Pennsylvania audience liked the sound of his ego-driven declarations of action that contrasted him with the ever-professorial, no-drama, globally conscious caution of Barack Obama.

Trump-base voters had endured quite enough inaction through Obama's objective, informed consideration of the world. How about some rash, biased consideration of America?

How about doing something even if it's wrong?

I submit that this analysis of Trump's presidential behavior will apply every time.

Consider: He's conducting a televised meeting with members of Congress on immigration, and U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina encourages him to be bolder than his predecessors and champion "comprehensive immigration reform." And Trump, sensing ego sustenance, replies with a promise of action to pursue that very thing.

Then, privately, his aides explain to him that it's more complicated than that.

In a televised meeting with members of Congress on guns, U.S. Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut tells Trump about lost gun-reform opportunities in past administrations. And Trump tells him there's a different kind of president now--a new sheriff in town, just like in Blazing Saddles--and vows comprehensive gun reform.

Then, privately, the NRA and Republicans in Congress--as I repeat myself--explain to him it's more complicated than that.

We have steel and aluminum tariffs. Why? Because a Wall Street banker acting as Trump's economic adviser, Gary Cohn, told the man-child president that he couldn't impose them--that it was, you know, more complicated than that.

Now we've exempted Canada and we are talking about exempting the European Union and Japan.

It all reminds me of that adage about writing. You know the one: Write drunk, edit sober.

It means to transfer words from brain to page, or screen, impulsively, even recklessly, then carefully excise and polish.

Trump writes drunk. Let's hope enough sober people hang around him to edit.

Maybe the North Korean summit is a good idea. It is surely a potentially hopeful sign.

But the best hope of its working for good is for people other than Trump -- motivated by American rather than personal interest--to handle the preparation and write and control the agenda, soberly.


John Brummett, whose column appears regularly in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, is a member of the Arkansas Writers' Hall of Fame. Email him at jbrummett@arkansasonline.com. Read his @johnbrummett Twitter feed.

Editorial on 03/13/2018


WGT says...


Posted 13 March 2018, 6:17 a.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

The man-child will do anything to draw attention away from the Russia investigation.

Posted 13 March 2018, 6:39 a.m. Suggest removal

ostorey says...

Amen. Just hope he doesn't run off all of the adults.

Posted 13 March 2018, 6:47 a.m. Suggest removal

Rightside says...

U.S. House Intelligence Committee Republicans said on Monday the panel had finished investigating Russia and the 2016 U.S. election, and found no collusion between President Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia. This after JB and the media spent a year and thousand of TV hours with this lie. Guess JB was writing drunk..
Economy good, unemployment down, stock market up, wages up, JB and Dems Sad.

Posted 13 March 2018, 7:39 a.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

Good comment with excellent timing, ostorey. Since he now ran off Tillerson too, His Royal Man-Child Highness is running dangerously low on adults.

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:18 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Rightside, B.S.! The GOP members of the committee issued a propaganda statement. That committee is so partisan as to be worthless for anything except member P.R. statements. The ONLY report that counts in Muller's, and in the end several more Trump aids and family members will go down. If Trump goes to North Korea, Kim Jong Un is going to play him like a cheap fiddle.

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:34 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Behavior reveals character.

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:50 a.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

Let's see, in the past NK has signed agreements and has not complied. Then, we know that Trump has signed agreements, with banks, and other businesses, and has not complied. So two people, known to lie big time are going to meet and solve one of the world's greatest problems. For some reason I just can't see an outcome that will benefit the USA or the world. John, another thought provoking column.

Posted 13 March 2018, 9:15 a.m. Suggest removal

tweedyboy57 says...

President Trump wants a 30$Million "parade" for Vets but...
President Donald Trump's proposals to cut eligibility for food stamps in 2018 would hit hard on thousands of military families who receive the benefit, the Pentagon said Tuesday.
"It's a very unfortunate situation," Army Lt. Gen. Anthony R. Ierardi, the Pentagon's Joint Staff Director for force structure, readiness and assessment, said of the difficulties of troops who have to resort to food stamps.

Posted 13 March 2018, 9:16 a.m. Suggest removal

Popsmith says...

Russia is not the enemy. Russia is the competition. Please direct your efforts to the real enemies.

Posted 13 March 2018, 9:41 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

Every column that "sore loser" John Brummett mentions......." second place president"...I happily post the election results from 2016....

Donald Trump..........304
Hillary Clinton..........227

Posted 13 March 2018, 9:47 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Anyone who thinks Russia is not our enemy didn't live through the cold war. How many of those electoral votes were provided indirectly by the Russian interference in the election causing people to vote for Trump?

Posted 13 March 2018, 10:39 a.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...


Tell that to everybody that Putin has murdered. He is a vicious dictator who owns our president--either financially or through prurient pictures or both.

Posted 13 March 2018, 10:41 a.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

And to think, it hasn't been that long ago that you "progs'" embraced Russia wholeheartedly.
Cracks me up that you people have gone so insane in your hatred of President Trump (I never tire of expressing that), you've forgotten all that you once loved.

Posted 13 March 2018, 11:28 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

I really am glad our senator Tom Cotton is going to remain our senator.

Even the mayor of New York City must like Tom Cotton as he targeted Mark Pryor (D-AR) for defeat for not supporting Barack HUSSEIN Obama on gun control.

Posted 13 March 2018, 11:29 a.m. Suggest removal

mrcharles says...

popsmith, you are right , russia is not the enemy. It is it's leadership that seeks to suck out every drop of blood from its people, as they are just mammals like us and they have their own stupid thoughts that their leadership can exploit. putin the vampire he is glamoured W, and of course, trump was much easier. Now we have Xi for life, putin and trump, a real trinity of danger to the world with their ability to push the button.

sgt custer, how do we know the russians did not manipulate the votes to win electoral votes knowing that most americans would choose the lesser of the two, Prove it to my satisfaction that the russians did not interfere with electoral results and I will apologize.

dang it, I was hoping ivanka would be next secretary of state. wow what a administration with stormy issues.

Posted 13 March 2018, 11:31 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

PopMom...........didn't Barack HUSSEIN Obama whisper into Putin's ear that he could work more closely with Putin as soon as the 2012 election was over?

Posted 13 March 2018, 11:32 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

I am progressive and I have never embraced Russia. More of a trust (sometimes) but verify (always) type of guy. And you are right mozarky, I absolutely hate Trump. He is arrogant, egotistical, flat out ignorant, and totally lacking in morals or empathy. He behaves as a child, and has the attention span of a crack addict on a three day binge. He is a worldwide embarrassment to our country, and it is a sad statement that enough people voted for him over 16 other well qualified conservative candidates that he won. And now, he is going to go to NK even though everyone is telling him don't, and get played. On top of that, he is owned by Putin. I want to see him impeached and Kush and Jr. in prison when Muller is done.

Posted 13 March 2018, 11:38 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Once again John Brummett writes to his job description throwing red meat to a pen full of useful idiots.
Hey PopSnob - I thought he was drawing attention away from DD Daniels? Or is he drawing attention away from immigration reform? Or maybe he's drawing attention away from doing away with the 2A? Would you please make up your mind?
Or......are DNC puppets like John Brummett drawing attention away from a booming economy, a tax cut being loved by the American people, massive jobs growth, lowest black unemployment on record, decimation of ISIS, operational reforms at DHS, DOI, Dept of Ed, etc.?
Hey PopSmith - "real enemies"? Like those that refuse to accept the results of a fair and honest presidential election?
Hey hah - Zero. Any more questions? "I absolutely hate Trump." Wow, that's a surprise. SMH.
Hey PopSnob - Might want to loosen up a notch or two on your tinfoil hat. You seem to be more unhinged than usual.

Posted 13 March 2018, 12:12 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...


If Trump fires Mattis and/or Mueller, there will be a constitutional crisis. It remains to be seen if Pompeo can be confirmed. He is going to face tough questioning. I think that the Republicans are going to keep their congressional district in Pennsylvania in which Trump won by 20 points, if they lose it look for some of the Republicans in the Senate to start jumping ship on Trump. Tillerson was well respected by the business community and foreign powers. Trump is running out of friends.

Posted 13 March 2018, 12:34 p.m. Suggest removal

Illinoisroy says...

Good news Mac, apparently you aren't the only Russian bot posting to this site, you have brethren in Mozarchy2. At least he isn't anonymous as you claim others are, I truly doubt that your real name is Douglas MacArthur. Peace be unto you.

Posted 13 March 2018, 12:49 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

The only people telling him not to go to NK are the people who stand to lose when he successfully tames that megamoniacal little pipsqueak; i.e., you "progs'".

Posted 13 March 2018, 12:59 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

You are correct, mrcharles. Our true enemies are the oligarchs and dictators worldwide - would-be or actual - and not the common people these vampires view as blood donors to be manipulated and exploited. Trump is merely the domestic version of these voracious parasites.

Posted 13 March 2018, 1:01 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Hey Packman, I just wanted to put it all out there for your and mozarky's entertainment today. Those are the exact reasons that I hate Trump. And with NK, he won't listed to some good advice. A few months ago, Tillerson was wasting his time, according to Trump, talking to NK. Now all the sudden it is a great thing because of what....NK only comes to the table when they need something. Chances are, the sanctions are hitting them hard enough that they need something now.
Mo, what exactly would I lose by "successfully taming" KJU, other than reducing the possibility of nuclear war?

Posted 13 March 2018, 1:22 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Reducing the possibility of dims ever returning to power. You "progs'" are so obsessed with President Trump failing, caring not if America fails in the process.
And this "collusion" crap? If the House committee had found the slightest shred of collusion, Schiff-for-brains would have already leaked it to the press!

Posted 13 March 2018, 1:57 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Trump's success is America's failure.

Posted 13 March 2018, 2 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

mo, you know the house did a very incomplete and partisan investigation. It isn't worth the paper it is written on. The only report that matters is Muller's. I wonder how that election in PA today will turn out?

Posted 13 March 2018, 2:03 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

It's good to see the Russian Trolls, moz, packy, and the imposter mac try to defend the 2nd placed vote getter of POTUS. None of these people served this country in its military all are but leeches of life, gutless wonders!

Posted 13 March 2018, 2:48 p.m. Suggest removal

3WorldState1 says...

Moz is a fing dips^%T. Hard to find dumber crap coming from anyone else.
The Russians aren't the enemy? Dems used to love Russia? Someones been watching Fox Entertainment.
How about this. We spend the same amount of time and money that the Repubs used on Benghazi.
And no Republican, or I should say Trump lover, ever asks themselves, "I wonder why Trump never says anything bad toward Russia." He mocks Gold Star families, war heroes. Accuses Americans of murder. Goes after the Pope. There is not one person this douche doesn't go after - except Russia. You dumb asses thing about that.

Posted 13 March 2018, 3:19 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

I agree, 3WS1. If Democrats are so soft on Russia, why are Putin and Trump in such a big bromance? Obama enforced sanctions; Trump ignores them.

Posted 13 March 2018, 3:26 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

PA 18 looks like a crapshoot to me.
Lamb is campaigning on focus group bromides, and Saccone just isn't inspiring conservative voters.
If Lamb can convince voters he's not the 2nd Amendment destroying, abortion until birth advocate, and open borders candidate he is, Lamb wins. He's a very convincing liar, although dim voters realize sometimes candidates have to lie, and he'll do whatever Nanzi Pelosi tells him to do. Funny nobody's asked him if he would have stood for at least SOME of President Trump's applause lines at SOTU.
You may recall the late surge President Trump got as the evening wore on and the working class got to the polls from work. If that surge plays out this time, Saccone wins.
Oh, I include you as a member of the working class, too, unlike the hard core unemployable "progs'" on this forum, like TimberTopper. You're rare, for a "prog".

Posted 13 March 2018, 3:52 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

mozarky2 wrongly imagines at least three things: he knows our work histories, we are offended when he quotes some unknown person when calling us progressives, and his opinion is valued.

Posted 13 March 2018, 4:02 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey hah - Just curious but do you hate lots of people? Hate is a very strong word. I don't hate anyone. There are lots of people deserving of contempt and disdain and it would be easy to hate the 911 terrorists. But hate is a cancer on a person's soul. Do you really hate Donald Trump?
Hey moz - PA 18 is a toss-up only because there are two conservatives in the race. The D supports Trumps tax cuts and his opinions on trade. He also talks about religious freedom and the need to seek a "balance" with gun control. Most importantly he's running like wildfire away from Nancy Pelosi. The D is running a very smart campaign.

Posted 13 March 2018, 4:35 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

BOLTAR, I post here with keen insight, incisive commentary, and a rapier sharp wit. If you can't keep up with me, just give up. You never have anything to offer but juvenile insults and ad hominem anyway.
Buy a good dictionary and a thesaurus, and study them both for a few years before you get back to me again.

Posted 13 March 2018, 4:36 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

mozzy, you've been a coward all your life. Had to work where you had a union contract to protect your sorry attitude and sorry work and then was 8 pounds too light to serve your country. Now you support the Russian Party candidate, and try to act like you are intelligent.
Your worth in life is that of a fly. Got any idea what they accomplish?

Posted 13 March 2018, 4:45 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

TreeTrimmer at 2:48 accused me of not serving in the military.

Drive up to Harrison Arkansas and I will show you my DD214.
( just don't come on the night I have a meeting )

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:22 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

The Republicans are having to sweat a win in a district Trump won by 20 points. It's not looking good for them for November.

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:24 p.m. Suggest removal

ARMNAR says...

Of course he lives in Harrison.

Klan you feel the love tonight, GM?

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:39 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Anything someone says about you is as true as the very identity you fabricated for yourself, so get over it, General Douglas MacArthur.

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:43 p.m. Suggest removal

DontDrinkDatKoolAid says...

his is soooo entertaining !!!

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:48 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

I don't doubt that Mac would have a meeting out in the woods with a burning cross after dark up near Harrison. But Pack, you are right, hate is a strong word. And no I do not hate many people at all. But I do hate Trump. I have almost never found a man so devoid of ethics, empathy, intellect, compassion, or honesty anywhere in my life. He does not belong in a position of power, certainly not as POTUS, and I doubt I would even consider it an issue if he were forcibly removed from power.

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:48 p.m. Suggest removal

ARMNAR says...

His WHAT is sooooo entertaining, DK?

Posted 13 March 2018, 5:54 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Hate is often appropriate. The legitimacy of hate can be measured relative to its target and the action it promotes.

Posted 13 March 2018, 6:01 p.m. Suggest removal

DontDrinkDatKoolAid says...

That would be this.

Posted 13 March 2018, 6:06 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

hah406............." meeting out in the woods "

No no, when I said " don't come the night of my meeting " I meant my American Legion meeting.

I thought my comment about my DD214 would have been a hint as to the nature of my meeting.

You liberal posters have such wild imaginations .

Posted 13 March 2018, 7:07 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey hah - You just described BH Obama (devoid of ethics, empathy, intellect, honesty, etc.). Should I hate him? Nah, I don't do hate.
Whoa there padnuh........did you just put your stamp of approval on using violence to overturn election results? Really? Seriously? I fear that cancerous hate has pushed you over the edge. Seek help. Seek help now before it's too late.

Posted 13 March 2018, 7:13 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

TreeTrimmer at 2:48 also used the term............" 2nd place vote getter "

Donald Trump....................304
Hillary Clinton...................227

Why are you trying to divert the discussion and make it about Hillary ?

Posted 13 March 2018, 7:17 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Packman fabricates and projects his violence fantasies onto hah406, who made no endorsement of violence.

Posted 13 March 2018, 7:20 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Well, TT, I guess you "progs'" not only hate minorities, judging from the actions of the party you support; women, from the Hollywood moguls you worship; but you also hate disabled people. TT, I had a physical disability that I hated. I couldn't gain weight despite my efforts. I didn't get up to the weight required for my height to join the military until I was 32 years old.
You constantly tell lies about me; lies that I've tried to refute, to no avail.
In the last 24 hours, you've called me a leech, a coward and a fly.
But that's OK. I understand your intellect is very limited and you have no response to my keen insight, insightful commentary, and rapier-sharp wit.
FYI, this leech, coward, fly is a well respected member of a very honorable profession, highly regarded not only by my company but also by my union brethren. (BTW, I thought you "progs'" we're all about unions).
Furthermore, I perform work that you are incapable of doing. I say that with complete confidence, since, while I have no inkling of your physical characteristics, your intellect is out there for all the world to see. Your temperance is completely inadequate for the teamwork required for my job, your judgement would endanger the people you would be working with, and your intelligence would prevent you grasping the scope of the work I perform.
This, I promise you, will be the last time I respond to one of your, infantile, imbecilic, and spittle-flecked invectives. FOAD, TT...

Posted 13 March 2018, 7:54 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

mozarky2 won't keep his word, Timber Topper, but you can briefly consider yourself the envy of the rest of us progressives.

Posted 13 March 2018, 8 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

The rest of you "progs'" who also possess limited intellect, arrested development, and ADD..
there are a few intelligent "progs'"on this forum...hah, for one.
Mostly morons like you and TT, BOLTAR...

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:12 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Speaking of hah, hey, looks like Lamb is up eight points in PA18, but mostly dem precincts reporting so far. Will be interesting to watch.
Usually the opposite, as Dems usually report late, so they know how many votes to manufacture...

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:16 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

You could punish me by ignoring me, sweetheart.

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:17 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Yeah, BOLTAR, all the other "progs'" on this forum are envious that I'd stop exposing THEIR lies!

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:17 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

What lies have I told?

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:23 p.m. Suggest removal

mozarky2 says...

Margin 3.6% for Lamb in PA18-his lead is cut in half. Of course, you have all those working people going to the polls in a late surge, just like 2016.

Posted 13 March 2018, 8:40 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Trump may have helped put Lamb over the top. Regardless, this is yet another major shift favoring the Democrats.

Posted 13 March 2018, 10:34 p.m. Suggest removal

carpenterretired says...

An American Legion meeting burning a cross, with guys wearing white robes? Well in Harrison maybe.

Posted 13 March 2018, 10:41 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

mozzy, LOL! If I was as big of a failure in life as you are I wouldn't comment on these boards. After all, the most you have ever done in life is say yes boss, never being the boss. You are the moron here!

Posted 14 March 2018, 8:33 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey Boltar - Nah, you're wrong. Lamb ran as a conservative and not a Democrat so there was no shift. Lamb supported Trump's tax cut, spoke favorably about guns and gun owners, and was personally pro life. The race in PA18 featured two conservatives. Lamb won because he spoke favorably of Trump and had the support of unions. What's amazing is the other guy kept the race so close.

Posted 14 March 2018, 11:53 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Pack you're wrong. Lamb ran as most Democrats would run today. He's as much a Democrat as many of us are. Personally opposed to abortion but supports a woman's right to choose as has been granted by SCOTUS. Your attempt to "co-opt" him is just more evidence of your ignorance of the issues.
Bottom line is Trump and his message was thumped yesterday in PA-18. What's amazing is how the other guy couldn't win even with Trump, his brood, and the $10M of outside money pumped into the campaign.
Pack you've lost any credibility you might have had several days ago and are now struggling to gain a voice in the mix. Give it up and go have fun with your fetish.

Posted 14 March 2018, 12:13 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

Packy, LOL! you got the Russian bot speech you were to give and are repeating it from one comment thread to the next. Well, Packy the Russian Troll, you are wrong!

Posted 14 March 2018, 2:06 p.m. Suggest removal

3WorldState1 says...

Ha! Poor Pack. Brainwashed by Rush and the others. I heard Fox Entertainment last night- "He's lucky he's keeping this close." The pendulum always swings. And once these millennials can vote, all 80 million of them...Republicans better start thinking of more ways to game the vote.
RB is right about Lamb. He has been saying basically the same thing we have been saying. Though I think an unpaid for stimulus during a record stock market and full employment (virtually) is stupid, IMO. But I'm more fiscally conservative then most Republicans - as we know they aren't in any way.

Posted 14 March 2018, 2:30 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey RBear - Bottom line Trump's message was embraced by both candidates. Do you deny Lamb supported Trump's tax cuts? Do you deny Lamb supported Trump's orders on coal? Do you deny Lamb agreed with Trump about Nancy Pelosi? Do you deny Lamb agrees with Trump on tariffs and NAFTA? Lamb had to embrace Trump to win. Bottom line.
So, RBear, if I have no credibility stop responding to my posts. I dare you. I double dog dare you.
Hey Timber and 3rdWorld - I provide reasonable evidence to support my thoughts and you offer only childish ad hominem attack. Point, game, set, match, Packman wins, again.

Posted 14 March 2018, 8:42 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...


Lamb is strongly in favor of Obamacare and was against the Republican "tax reform." He is pro-choice and wants to protect Medicare and Social Security. Lamb favors student loan reform and more spending on education. His district is outside Pittsburgh so naturally he is in favor of the steel tariff. Many Democrats favor some form of NAFTA reform. Jerry Brown was a leader on the issue in the early 90s when Clinton and the Republicans pushed NAFTA through. The other candidate was a Trump supported candidate and lost. It was a repudiation of Trump.

Posted 15 March 2018, 6:42 a.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

Packy, this may come as a shock to you, so maybe you'd be wise to sit down. There is no reasonable evidence that can support your thoughts. Your thought process is but an attempt to start at one end and end up at another. You haven't won at all.

Posted 15 March 2018, 9:07 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Only losers feel the need to referee their own game.

Posted 15 March 2018, 10:21 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

As long as so many of you start your comments with Packman, you feed his ego to the point he believes he can get away with daring you to ignore his ignorant provocations. Who is really getting played?

Posted 15 March 2018, 11:26 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey Pop - Lamb ran a great campaign and did what he had to do to win, which was embrace President Trump and destroy Nancy Pelosi. While Lamb wasn't in lockstep with the President he did in fact say nice things about President Trump. The election was in no way a repudiation of President Trump.
BUT, please keep thinking it was and ignore Lamb's blueprint for success. Hopefully, Democrats will offer up fire breathing uber leftists this fall across the nation fully embracing Nancy Pelosi and fighting like hell against the Trump tax cuts. If that happens on a large scale basis the Republicans may pull off a miracle and actually retain control of the House. And as we learned in 2016, electoral miracles do happen.

Posted 15 March 2018, 11:29 a.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

Breaking News. Mueller subpoenas Trump Organization business records in connection with Russia Investigation. McMaster and John Kelly may be leaving. The constitutional crisis may be close at hand.

Posted 15 March 2018, 3:25 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

More special sauce for that juicy something burger, PopMom.

Posted 15 March 2018, 3:46 p.m. Suggest removal

3WorldState1 says...

He just said he wouldn't vote for Nancy Palosi for speaker. I probably wouldn't either. Time for new blood. And Fox has brain washed the drones so much, all you have to say is Palosi or Shumer and their mouths start watering. Pavlov indeed.
Most Dems are moderates. It's just that the state TV that the right watches - they never see it. Like Pack and the rest of the Rush dummies here.

Posted 16 March 2018, 12:42 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey Pop - Speaking of conspiracy theories,tinfoil hats, and silly wishful thinking, why did Obama change his name from Barry Soetoro if he's not a Muslim?

Posted 16 March 2018, 4:57 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...


Somebody else wrote that his mother divorced his stepfather so he went back to his original name. Sounds logical to me. Why do you think that he would marry a Christian woman and go to Christian church if he was a secret Muslim? Do you think that his Christian grandparents from Kansas who raised him and whose ancestors came from Arkansas might have influenced him?

Posted 19 March 2018, 6:41 a.m. Suggest removal

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