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Trump 'morally unfit,' Comey tells interviewer

Ex-FBI boss: There’s ‘certainly some evidence of obstruction’

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WASHINGTON -- James Comey said Sunday that he thinks there's "certainly some evidence of obstruction" by President Donald Trump -- a statement that aired hours after Trump suggested the "slippery" former FBI director should be imprisoned.

ABC aired one hour of its five-hour conversation with Comey, who was fired by Trump last year. A transcript of the complete interview shows that Comey called Trump "morally unfit to be president," a serial liar who treated women like "meat," and described him as a "stain" on everyone who worked for him.

Comey told ABC's George Stephanopoulos that it was "possible" the Russians had material that could be used to blackmail Trump.

He also said "possibly" when asked whether the president was attempting to obstruct justice when he asked Comey to end an FBI investigation into former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump has denied that conversation, but Comey insisted that it occurred.

Despite his concerns, Comey said he would not favor impeaching Trump because that "would let the American people off the hook and have something happen indirectly that I believe they're duty-bound to do directly" -- meaning through elections.

The comments were made in Comey's first interview since writing his memoir, A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies and Leadership, which is scheduled for release Tuesday.

In the book, Comey described the interactions he had with Trump, including meetings and phone calls about which he said he meticulously wrote down notes afterward for posterity. Excerpts had already been widely reported, prompting a series of critical tweets from Trump earlier Sunday.

"I never asked Comey for Personal Loyalty," Trump said on Twitter. "I hardly even knew this guy. Just another of his many lies. His 'memos' are self serving and FAKE!"

The president on Sunday questioned Comey's intelligence and place in history, writing, "Slippery James Comey, a man who always ends up badly and out of whack (he is not smart!), will go down as the WORST FBI Director in history, by far!"

Trump also asked of Comey on Twitter, "how come he gave up Classified Information (jail), why did he lie to Congress (jail)."

Asked if the president wanted the Justice Department to investigate Comey, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Sunday on ABC's This Week that she was not aware of a specific request. But, she said, "if [Justice Department officials] feel there was any wrongdoing, they should certainly look into that just as they do on a number of other topics."

Trump fired Comey in May 2017, part of a series of events at the Justice Department that led to the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Mueller's probe has expanded to include whether Trump obstructed justice by firing Comey.

MAFIA BOSS REFERENCE

In the ABC interview, Comey, who ran the FBI for almost four years, described a one-on-one dinner during which, he says, Trump demanded his loyalty.

"And I said, 'You will always get honesty from me,'" Comey recalled. "And he paused and then he said, 'Honest loyalty,' as if he was proposing some compromise or a deal. And I paused and said, 'You'll get that from me.'"

That dinner felt like a mob initiation of sorts, Comey said in the interview.

"I'm not trying to, by the way, suggest that President Trump is out breaking legs and, you know, shaking down shopkeepers," Comey said. Instead, it was reminiscent of "the loyalty oaths, the boss as the dominant center of everything. It's all about how do you serve the boss, what's in the boss's interests. It's the family, the family, the family, the family."

On Sunday, before the ABC interview aired, Comey tweeted that his book draws on stories from his life and from lessons he has learned from others.

"3 presidents are in my book: 2 help illustrate the values at the heart of ethical leadership; 1 serves as a counterpoint," he wrote. "I hope folks read the whole thing and find it useful."

Comey's memoir offers his version of the events surrounding his firing and the investigations into Russian election meddling and into Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's email practices.

After Clinton's loss, many Democrats blamed Comey's October 2016 disclosure that the FBI had reopened its investigation into Clinton's email practices.

In the ABC interview, Comey said he believed it would have been extremely damaging to the credibility of the FBI if the reopened investigation did not come to light until after the election.

"If I ever start considering whose political fortunes will be affected by a decision, we're done," he said. "We're no longer that group in America that is apart from the partisans, and that can be trusted."

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In an excerpt that aired Saturday, Comey said, "I don't remember spelling it out, but it had to have been that she's going to be elected president and if I hide this from the American people, she'll be illegitimate the moment she's elected, the moment this comes out."

Trump seized on that Sunday, saying Comey "was making decisions based on the fact that he thought she was going to win, and he wanted a job. Slimeball!"

The admission by Comey has drawn condemnation from others, including former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who worked closely with Comey as U.S. attorney for New Jersey.

"It is exactly what they teach you not to do," Christie said on ABC, adding, "The hubris he shows in that interview is extraordinary to me. Not the guy I worked with or worked for."

And Sanders said Sunday that the admission was a reason that critics believe "James Comey doesn't have credibility and shouldn't have been leading the FBI any longer."

"Give me a break," Sanders said. "The guy knew exactly what he was doing. He thought Hillary Clinton would win. And he thought this would give him some cover. He thought that he made these decisions based on the political landscape and not on the facts of the case. And when the person that is supposed to lead the highest law enforcement agency in our country starts making decisions based on political environments instead of on what is right and what is wrong, it's a really dangerous position."

FORMER AG LYNCH

Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch pushed back against Comey's criticism in the book that, early in the Clinton email inquiry, she had instructed him to refer to it as a "matter" rather than an "investigation."

In a statement to The Associated Press on Sunday, Lynch said she was simply following longstanding Justice Department protocol against confirming or denying the existence of an investigation. She also said that Comey never raised any concerns with her regarding the email investigation.

On Sunday, Trump wrote on Twitter, "Comey throws AG Lynch 'under the bus!'"

Lynch had also been criticized for a June 2016 meeting with former President Bill Clinton at a Phoenix airport. Lynch said the discussion did not involve the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email use, and a Bill Clinton aide said the meeting came because "[Clinton and Lynch] realized they were both sitting on the same tarmac." Lynch was traveling with her husband and said Clinton asked to board Lynch's plane, where the conversation "was a great deal about his grandchildren" and their travels.

Trump cited that meeting in the same tweet, writing, "Why can't we all find out what happened on the tarmac in the back of the plane with Wild Bill and Lynch? Was she promised a Supreme Court seat, or AG, in order to lay off Hillary. No golf and grandkids talk (give us all a break)!"

House Speaker Paul Ryan declined to take sides in the dispute during an interview broadcast Sunday.

Chuck Todd, host of NBC's Meet the Press, asked Ryan during the interview taped Friday whether he agreed with Trump's description of Comey as a "slimeball" -- a term Trump used Sunday and on April 13 to describe Comey.

"I don't speak like that," he said, adding: "By the way, I wouldn't do that because you're going to help him sell books. So I've met him two or three times in two or three briefings. I don't really know the guy. I'm not trying to be evasive. But what I don't want to do is ... join some food fight, some book-selling food fight. I don't see any value in that."

Information for this article was contributed by Catherine Lucey and Eric Tucker of The Associated Press; by Ros Krasny and Jennifer Jacobs of Bloomberg News; and by Matt Zapotosky, Devlin Barrett, Josh Dawsey, Mike DeBonis, Greg Jaffe and Carolyn Johnson of The Washington Post.

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Comments

TimberTopper says...

Comey is correct.

Posted 16 April 2018, 5:49 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Just watching the demeanor of Trump and SHS gives Comey’s statements even more credibility. It’s as if he knows more will come out and has to throw up the screen to deflect. He truly is unfit to lead this country. He would be more suited in a Third World country like Venezuela. What makes it worse is the group of issue illiterate voters who continue to plague our elections with thuggery and division. They are tearing down their own party, much less the country.

Posted 16 April 2018, 6:40 a.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

It is a little frightening that Trump still has support out there. His support is mostly white male with no college; he also does well among rural whites. I suspect that they care only about their guns and nothing else.

Posted 16 April 2018, 6:49 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Statements of obvious fact often provoke the strongest denial and the greatest outrage because they are statements of obvious fact and cannot be countered by statements of obvious fact.

Posted 16 April 2018, 6:51 a.m. Suggest removal

Dontsufferfools says...

So Trump's "logic" is that Comey publicly reopened the email investigation 11 days before the election, without knowing the usefulness of the laptop's emails, to curry favor with Hillary in the hope of keeping his job or getting a better one after she was elected? Makes no sense whatsoever. Hillary was furious and rightfully so. Of course, Comey should have said nothing about the "new" emails until at least until he knew what their value was. And he should have left any pronouncements about prosecution to Lynch or some other Justice Department figure. If anything, Comey, a lifelong Republican, abetted the Trump campaign every step of the way. He made no public pronouncements about the ongoing investigation of Trump campaign officials playing footsie with Russian intelligence operatives while rather publicly investigating Hillary's use of a private server.

Posted 16 April 2018, 7:27 a.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

A good point about Trump being suited to rule a Third World country, RBear, but it enhances Trum's legitimacy as our nation increasingly assumes more Third World characteristics.

Posted 16 April 2018, 7:30 a.m. Suggest removal

KCSAP says...

Yeah right, Comey's got creds! Sheez!

Posted 16 April 2018, 8:14 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

KCSAP compared with Trump? Yea, he does.

Posted 16 April 2018, 8:35 a.m. Suggest removal

DoubleBlind says...

I have to go with DSF on this one. Reopening the investigation into Clinton’s emails was one thing; he should never have announced it publicly. Who does that? It was a clearly political move and in complete opposition to his claims of non partisanship. I agree with his assessments of Trump. Aside from that, good riddance.

Posted 16 April 2018, 8:56 a.m. Suggest removal

skeptic1 says...

That is really rich coming from a guy that has completely disgraced the office he held and the agency he led. He is so arrogant in believing he is above the law he admits in his book he declined to investigate and refer Hillary for political reasons and admits he lied to obtain a FISA warrant using a fake dossier. If he isn't prosecuted we will never have confidence in our government agencies again.

Posted 16 April 2018, 8:59 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

I long for the days of J Edgar Hoover.

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:10 a.m. Suggest removal

DoubleBlind says...

I had you pegged as a cross-dresser, GM; thanks for confirming.

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:20 a.m. Suggest removal

skeptic1 says...

General Mac...longing for Hoover shows just how off the rails the current FBI is. Our press has lost any credibility and now our most trusted agencies have been completely corrupted.

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:22 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

President Trump should have immediately drained the swamp by getting rid of every single person appointed by Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Keeping any of Obama's men was a big mistake.

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:37 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

DoubleBlind.......I certainly can support one's govt work w/o supporting his personal life.

Democrats long for a presidency like Bill Clinton's.
Does that mean they support his personal actions where he behaved like a feral tomcat ?

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:41 a.m. Suggest removal

KCSAP says...

Congress needs to reconsider a 10 year term for FBI Director. Seems like it antithetical to the purpose, and obviously to easily corrupted by Dems.

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:43 a.m. Suggest removal

itryed says...

It may take a generation to repair what This little Mussolini has undone.

Posted 16 April 2018, 9:44 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

You all keep saying that Comey is dishonest and committed a crime. Same with Mcabe, Clinton, and you are bordering on saying it about Muller. If that was true and the DOJ was that out of control, congress would deal with it. The fact is there were no crimes committed, but federal grand juries are handing out indictments against Trump campaign people like candy.
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Trump has no morals, no ethical values, and I doubt that he has a soul. He can't read or be bothered to even learn the basic tenants of the constitution. Shouting that the whole DOJ is corrupt without any actual evidence shows just how insane Trump and some supporters are. The bottom line is the man is unfit to be president. At this point, I long for a Bill Clinton presidency, or either Bush, or Obama, or Reagan or LBJ. Anyone except Trump or Nixon.

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:17 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

haha406........maybe next time the Dems won't hitch their wagons to candidates as bad as Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:23 a.m. Suggest removal

mrcharles says...

the national socialism of all of us is anchored in "uncritical loyalty" , in the surrender to the Fuhrer that "does not ask why" in individual cases, in the silent execution of his orders. We believe that the fuhrer is obeying a higher call to fashion german history There can be no criticism of this belief!
RUDOLPH HESS JUNE 1934

the thoughts of certainty that all impure elements [ you know others] pose threats to the fatherland by the right in our nation, seems deju vu , all over again .

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:27 a.m. Suggest removal

hogfan2012 says...

Just trying to sell books.....

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:49 a.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Mac your comment does nothing to justify why the GOP picked Trump. Any of the other 16 candidates on the GOP side would have been preferable to this dumpster fire that is the current administration.

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:49 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Comey has all the usual suspects gut hooked. Hillary voters blame Comey for costing her the election yet will make the guy rich buying his book. They define the term "useful idiot".
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Hey PopSnob - "I suspect that they (rural voters) care only about their guns and nothing else." You are absolutely THE most arrogant snob on this forum. Nobody else is even close.
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You libs are so blinded hate (hatred of Christian, hatred of gun owners, hatred of Trump) you are incapable of rational thought. Comey admitted he and everyone else thought Hillary would win the election in a landslide. He "reopened" the investigation knowing he would then close it before the election and fully exonerate Hillary. Comey wanted to preserve the appearance of his impartiality and not be accused of favoring Hillary by waiting until after to vote for the Weiner laptop to be made public. Comey and his team of elites felt Hillary had a large enough cushion that even if the news cost her some votes it wouldn't be enough to sway the election. And he was right because the election was not swayed by his Weiner laptop announcement but by Hillary being a terrible candidate and ignoring Wisconsin.

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:50 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

haha406...........I voted for Ted Cruz in the primary.

When the general election rolled around my choices were Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

EASY choice.........Donald Trump.

Posted 16 April 2018, 11:14 a.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

I would have voted for the Blue Dog Democrat Colin Peterson (D-MN) but he was not on the ballot.

Posted 16 April 2018, 11:16 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Pack are you lost or just having a problem with reading comprehension again? I don't think I see ANYWHERE in here where PM commented. But, let's just carry this out of place rant a little further in the analysis.
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You blame PM as an arrogant snob for her categorization of rural voters and yet come back in the next para and labels progressives as hating Christians, gun owners, and Trump. Well, you got one of the three right. To start with, progressives don't hate Christians or gun owners. In fact, many progressives ARE Christians AND gun owners. What we hate are people who try to use their "Christian" beliefs as justification of oppression of others (e.g. LGBT individuals).
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We had gun nuts who distort the 2A to justify owning assault weapons, especially those who try to lump everything into the category of "sporting rifles." We do hate Trump because he has made the office of president a disgrace and lies more than any other president before him. We hate those who give him a free pass because a) either they are too dumb to do different or b) do it to get their twisted agenda tearing down America through.
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BTW, what's up with this Christian defense thing? Last time I checked, you haven't darkened the door of a church in a long time. So how can you know what is Christian hate and what is not?
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With regards to the rest of the lot, I'll take a pass on your comments. They are all over the map and don't even make coherent points.

Posted 16 April 2018, 11:25 a.m. Suggest removal

malice06220956 says...

Boy, you all are brave, insulting Trump voters behind a computer screen.

Posted 16 April 2018, 11:40 a.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

malice what are you implying? Be more clear with your own veiled threats. Oh, and did your mother name you malice on purpose?

Posted 16 April 2018, 12:01 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

Packman,

I am not the snob--you are. I have friends of every color and sexual orientation. You are the bigot--not me.

Posted 16 April 2018, 12:15 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

RBear........malice doesn't hide behind a phony name like you and mrcharles.

She even has a first, middle, and last name.

Unlike cowards like RBear and mrcharles.

You two are hypocrites !

Posted 16 April 2018, 12:19 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

Packman,

The "they" referred to Trump supporters--not all rural people. I can't think of any good reason to support Trump except to keep your guns.

Posted 16 April 2018, 12:21 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

gun rights
anti-abortion
anti ILLEGALS

Three huge, unrelated, issues that he has come through on.

Posted 16 April 2018, 12:27 p.m. Suggest removal

TravisBickle says...

Being immoral is a job requirement for a politician.

Posted 16 April 2018, 12:47 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Let's check that Mac. Gun rights, states are enacting new laws nearly every week to respond to mass shootings. Row v. Wade is still the law of the land, and there has been zero legislation at the federal level. That's two falsehoods. Finally, yes he wants to end DACA, but the courts have that on hold. That makes Trump zero for three on your list. Got anything else?

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:13 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Packman, my preacher would be really surprised that I hated Christians. My duck hunting buddies as well that I hated gun owners. Big old broad brush you used there my friend. I will give you the third one. While not blinded by it, I do hate Trump. He is morally, ethically, and intellectually bankrupt. A total zero. He presents a clear and present danger to our country and our way of governance, and should never have been elected.

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:18 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Fake general R Bear is my REAL name. However, I find it hard to believe General Douglas MacArthur is
your real name. Maybe I should check with DoD on that.
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Every day i’m seeing how unhinged and unstable you really are. Seek help, especially with your sobriety.

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:20 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

haha406.......

appointed a judge to the United States Supreme Court that ...NEVER...would have been appointed with a Democrat president.

refresher......the United States Supreme Court ..DOES..rule on abortion issues like upholding the ban on that gruesome procedure called partial birth abortion.

When they did that, EVERY Democrat campaigning for the president at the time voiced their strong OPPOSITION to the ban including Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Immigration.......sending National Guard troops to the border to help Border Patrol apprehend ILLEGALS.

GUN RIGHTS.......took no action from the bully pulpit to urge new gun control that naive Florida students and naive posters here supported.

You already knew everything I posted, but I gladly will refresh your memory.

Now, get back to work registering guns !

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:25 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

RBear...........everyone else has a first and last name except 2 cowards.........you and mrcharles.

I doubt very much your drivers license or admission card to the gay bath house has your name as R Bear.

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:28 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Fake actually it does. How about yours? Are you really this crazy?

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:33 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey RBear - Moron. PopSnob's comment was the third post on this thread.
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Hey PopSnob - Your comment about rural Americans was patently arrogant and snobbish, and you know it. You made the comment, PopSnob, now own it.
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Hey hah - Does the name Neil Gorsuch ring a bell? If President Trump accomplishes nothing else in the next 6 or so years he defeated Hillary and placed a Scalia clone on SCOTUS instead of a RBG clone. MAGA one SCOTUS appointment at a time.
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I hear that wise Latino is having major blood sugar issues. Perhaps nature will work its magic on her before RBG. What a wonderful world it will be if President Trump gets to appoint two or maybe three more judges to SCOTUS. MAGA, baby, MAGA.

Posted 16 April 2018, 1:50 p.m. Suggest removal

RBear says...

Pack sorry. I missed it. Would say, chalk it up to not enough coffee but I had my allotment for the day by then.

Posted 16 April 2018, 2:39 p.m. Suggest removal

TimberTopper says...

One need not be unable to see to be blind. It can happen when one's mind is so limited that the thought process is a new experience, and the blind prefers to remain in the darkness.

Posted 16 April 2018, 2:42 p.m. Suggest removal

3WorldState1 says...

Trump 'morally unfit,'
Yep.

Posted 16 April 2018, 2:49 p.m. Suggest removal

WhododueDiligence says...

"Perhaps nature will work its magic on her before RBG. What a wonderful world it will be ..."
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That was awfully low, Packman. Perhaps that was overly nasty. Perhaps now considering your added evidence it looks like we're going to have to find you guilty as sin and PopMom innocent of all charges.

Posted 16 April 2018, 3:04 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

What does it say that the only other people admittedly sharing Cohen as an attorney with Trump are Hannity and an RNC money man paying a woman to abort his baby? What an elite club of Republican leaders!

Posted 16 April 2018, 3:31 p.m. Suggest removal

itryed says...

Liberals against Christians"?...you're an idiot!

Posted 16 April 2018, 4:12 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey Whodo - What's awfully low is justices like RBG playing politics by occupying a SCOTUS seat when possessing both a medically diminished mind and body. Sadly, these politically partisan appointees "hold" their seats until a like minded justice can be appointed or Mother Nature intervenes. The wonderful world will be having a 6 - 3 majority of Scalia clones on SCOTUS, having been accomplished because Donald Trump is President of the United States and not Hillary Clinton.

Posted 16 April 2018, 4:30 p.m. Suggest removal

DoubleBlind says...

Pack keeping it classy by wishing the deaths of two SCOTUS’s - both females, of course. Wow. Just, wow.

Posted 16 April 2018, 4:55 p.m. Suggest removal

mrcharles says...

hah , while we could have lived with a few, not sure cruz would have been preferable, but then again once in Australia, was at a place that had both salt water crocs and great white sharks and upon reflection both were deadly in their own way.

and the general who dont ride so well any more, the great getin up day of the Idol presentation will be a photo op day for all involved.

and I believe I am a non stamp collector. A hypocrite, GM, you may be the cream of the crud on that.

malice, the identification of being a supporter of the present scandal person does not prevent the facts from being true with facts you call insults.

hatred of christian. What does that mean, a person, a system, a building , a hypocrite, an evangelical wearing a $1000 suit, or sea bass once upon a time spouting trying to be a better christian [ unique way of putting forth a confusing meaning] but later stating you were not a believer [ well, there being thousands of variations of that , you could be excused] . Guess the change was a change, or perhaps it can be said which statement was a lie.

malice, just turn the page or just get over it. i've been more scared of other mammals once upon a time than any of the loud mouth right wingers on here, and freely admit to hiding , but then again I am here . Usually the tough guy threats are by people who have trouble with self esteem or in reaction to being proved wrong time after time.

as to hating christians, what do they say, hate the sin, forgive [ i will say the right wing sinners here do not love who they call the sinner, so that hypocrite statement they own] the sinner, except a few whose names I dont have to mention. Hint, they feed off christians and live large.

Posted 16 April 2018, 5:01 p.m. Suggest removal

hah406 says...

Packman, wishing for anyone's death is not just low. It reflects an un-Christian attitude, low moral character, and a general disregard for life from someone who proclaims to value life at all stages. There is zero evidence that RBG is in ill health, and at any rate, she is mentally, morally, and ethically more healthy than Trump. N.G.'s placement on SCOTUS only maintained the status quo, and as much as I disliked his rulings, I certainly never prayed for Scalia's death. You should be ashamed.

Posted 16 April 2018, 5:47 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

There is a reason why Packman has never been married. He doesn't like women.

Posted 16 April 2018, 6:25 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

Even Pope Benedict broke with tradition by realizing it was time to step down.

RGB could learn by his example.

Posted 16 April 2018, 6:40 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

We finally agree, General Deflection, but your hero already died. Richard Girnt Butler (February 23, 1918 – September 8, 2004) was a white supremacist and American Christian religious leader.

Posted 16 April 2018, 7:34 p.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey PopSnob - Only women that want the government to take my old squirrel rifle. Those women I really don't like. They can pretty much kiss my a$$.
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Hey DoubleBlind and hah - Who said anything about death? Who said anything about praying for someone to die. Stop lying. Mother Nature acts in many, many ways. Perhaps it is you with the mind of low moral character.
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And wait, hah, did you just equate abortion to the workings of Mother Nature? That's f'd up, hah. Really, really f'd up.

Posted 16 April 2018, 7:46 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

Packman,

Almost all women want to take away any instrument of death that can kill many people quickly. We are mothers and/or nurturers. We value people over guns. You really do not like us.

Posted 16 April 2018, 8:20 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

Someone needs to explain to a particularly uninformed person that nature often spontaneously aborts fetuses.

Posted 16 April 2018, 8:20 p.m. Suggest removal

GeneralMac says...

People naturally die.
That shouldn't make murder legal.

Posted 16 April 2018, 10:33 p.m. Suggest removal

BOLTAR says...

I know you qualify, General Deflection, but I was thinking of a different uninformed person who made a particularly ignorant and mocking pronouncement about abortion and nature.

Posted 17 April 2018, 7:37 a.m. Suggest removal

Packman says...

Hey PopSnob - "Almost all women want to take away any instrument of death that can kill many people quickly." Really? All women want to take away airplanes? You have any data to support such a goofy statement? Put down the cheap wine, PopSnob, and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Hey Boltar - Are you really, seriously, equating the butchery of an abortionist to a natural medical occurrence? You are as f'd up as hah, Boltar. But you be you.
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Hey GeneralMac - Notice how the chickensh*t Boltar deflected from your point? Nice one, GM. Very nice.

Posted 17 April 2018, 3:40 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

Packman,

Anybody who drinks cheap wine is definitely not a snob. Guns are used only as instruments of death; airplanes are most useful as a means of transportation.

Posted 17 April 2018, 4:52 p.m. Suggest removal

PopMom says...

Trump is now taking on Nikki Haley. He is backtracking on Russian sanctions (probably per the orders of his boss, Putin) and his people are saying that Nikki was "confused". Trump really is in trouble now. Nikki will chew him up and spit him out!

Posted 17 April 2018, 6:37 p.m. Suggest removal

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